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The New Facebook Comments System. Good? Or Evil?

Angel and DevilEarlier this week, Facebook rolled out a really interesting commenting system. Basically, any website can embed a little bit of code (just one line) and have on-site commenting fully integrated with Facebook. And it looks and behaves just like the commenting system on Facebook itself, so there is no learning curve for most people. For certain kinds of businesses, this is HUGE.

Like many other embedded commenting systems (including Disqus, the system we use on this blog), when you comment using the new Facebook comment plugin, your comments can also show up in your Facebook news feed for all of your friends to see. The biggest difference is that with the Facebook comments plugin, if one of your friends then responds on Facebook to your comment, their response will also show up on your blog. This has potentially major viral implications.


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Consider there are 600 million people on Facebook. So that’s probably just about all of your customers. Pretty close anyway.

Facebook Comment Example

Source: TechCrunch

On the flip side, the system currently requires all users to have either a Facebook or Yahoo account. It’s impossible to leave an anonymous comment, which can be good or bad, depending on your point of view. Anonymity tends to increase noise and “trolls”, but in some circumstances can make a commenter feel safe enough to leave a comment. Plus, the lack of anonymity and the two-way integration with Facebook means that you, as the website owner, can get a lot more detailed information about who is seeing your content on Facebook.

So who is this most useful for? And who should avoid it? And why?

Definite Value

For certain kinds of companies, this system is terrific.

Broad-based media companies - They consistently produce content that is easily shareable, invites engagement, and is widely of interest. If a magazine website has a popular article with the comment widget right on the page, those who initially engage will leave comments that will also appear on their Facebook pages, exposing the article to potentially thousands more. Some of those people will comment on Facebook in response, and those comments will appear back on the article, fostering a single, ongoing conversation. For media sites with thousands of pagest, the effects could be extraordinary.

Companies invested in content marketing – An increasing number of companies today are beginning to view themselves as publishers, creating content that educates, engages and entertains their customers. Content marketing, the basis of inbound marketing, is a fantastic way to prove expertise, enhance credibility, raise awareness, and generate leads. These kinds of companies have needs similar to media companies in that they’re trying to maximize the reach of their content, but instead of trying to increase ad and subscription revenue, they’re trying to develop more and deeper relationships with customers. If their customers are on Facebook (and who’s aren’t?), the Facebook comment system could be a great match.

Sites that invoke passion – For example, consider any site centered on politics, sports, or religion — areas where emotions and passions can run high. The lack of anonymity in the system helps such sites protect against a drop in respectful discourse. Commenting on the Facebook comment system is like putting up a semi-public billboard with your words, name, pictures, and tons of other personal information.

Causes – There are many causes that are not necessarily controversial but could benefit greatly by increased awareness. If a not-for-profit is trying to raise funds to support autism or breast cancer research, anonymity is not necessarily a big concern. Reach is a much bigger issue.

Companies where engagement is mostly happening on Facebook – Some companies find that few people comment directly on their websites, and that much of the engagement happens on Facebook. In that case, it makes perfect sense to use the Facebook Comment widget to increase engagement in both directions.

Stay Away

Sites that value anonymity - Certain kinds of blogs like Slashdot explicitly value anonymous commenting (Slashdot even has a type of commenter called “Anonymous Coward.”) Facebook commenting doesn’t allow anonymity, period.

Sites that value privacy - Even if you don’t care much about anonymity, Facebook doesn’t exactly have the best privacy record in history. If you are trying to build an online community on a sensitive or highly regulated topic (victims of abuse, an alcoholics support group, pharmaceuticals, etc.,) Facebook’s system is not for you. Remember, every Facebook comment added to your blog is additional data that Facebook can mine for its own potentially nefarious purposes.

Sites fostering deeper conversations – In order to create an online community of depth, commenters need incentive to spend the time to be thoughtful. Facebook commenting leads to a general casualness that a site may not otherwise get. Also, it can be difficult to build a very large community that maintains depth and deep insight. For example, we’re currently working on a community-based website for the Simons Foundation Autism Research Initiative where scientists can have in-depth discussions about the latest autism research. We have a very specific audience in mind and so we are not looking for volume. Rather, the quality of the conversation is of primary importance.

Good or Evil?

The initial reaction in the blogosphere is decidedly mixed. Additional issues have been brought up asking about the implications for search engine optimization, the inability to style Facebook comments the way you might want, the fact that some companies block all things Facebook, and whether or not comments can be migrated in or out of the system. None of the answers seems initially favorable.

However, remember that Facebook changes are always met with skepticism before they’re embraced (unthinkingly) by users after all. Perhaps the most important part of all of this is that Facebook has again found a new way to own even more of the world’s online conversation real estate.

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  • http://socialbutterflyguy.com/ DJ Waldow

    Overall, great assessment, Scott. Well said!

    “On the flip side, the system currently requires all users to have either a Facebook or Yahoo account.” That’s the biggest rub for me right now. If someone does not have a FB or Yahoo! account (yes, that’s still some people), they will not be able to comment.

    Another downside, to quote my co-worker Chris Penn, is that it does not, “sync[s] down to your WordPress account like Disqus does. That was one of the main reasons I didn’t use Disqus for a long time – a major SEO negative as the comments don’t actually exist as text on your site.”

    I have a feeling that Disqus will copy much of the FB functionality.

    DJ Waldow
    Director of Community, Blue Sky Factory
    http://www.blueskyfactory.com
    @djwaldow

  • http://notesfromtheninjabunny.tumblr.com/ Emily Merkle

    “content marketers?” i.e. a company blog. not sure it’s compelling to comment on a compsany’s blog…esp. if they already have a FB fan page.
    I don’t see the “continuous convo” happening eg) if I am reading news on Reuters, and I have logged in and held a little convo with people – yeah – it posts to my wall. but it is statistically unlikely that my FB contacts are going to a) be on FB at same time; b) read my wall so we can talk on the media property, and c) whenever/if ever my contact is interested enough to check out the article – I’m gone, convo’s over…no value add.
    Plus, a good many media companies are already allowing users to log in with FB/YHOO?etc (I prefer DISQUS)…
    “sites that invoke passion” = all of them.
    causes? what do you talk about? again – no convo synch
    I know of no message board/forum that *encourages” anonymity – you have it back wards – hiding behind no name encourages people to be less than civil.
    “foster deep convo” – this ain’t gonna solve that…

    Again – this is already out there….this update may appeal to the non-tech majorirty..

  • http://blog.abstractedge.com Scott Paley

    Hi Emily,

    Thank you for your considered response. Respectfully, I disagree on a few specific points.

    First, you say it’s not compelling to comment on a company’s blog. I think it depends on the company and the audience. Certainly there are company blogs with vibrant communities (I know because I participate in a few.)

    Second, conversations on Facebook are asynchronous. I suppose if you have enough “friends” on Facebook, you could miss a lot of conversations if you’re not constantly checking your news feed. But for most people, they have few enough FB connections that they can check their feed some hours, or even a day or two later and still see the discussion.

    Third, if somebody does read your wall and sees the discussion, they can participate in the discussion “on the media property”, as you put it, but without needing to ever actually go to the media property itself. They participate without ever leaving Facebook. That’s a major part of the added value of the Facebook widget.

    Fourth, all sites invoke passion? Hardly. We built a medical malpractice insurance website. Certainly doctors care about what this company has to say, but I’m not sure it’s a “passion” thing exactly. When I wrote that part of the post, I was specifically talking about sites that really get people going. A political blog is going to stir the pot a lot more than a recipe sharing community (all puns intended.)

    On anonymity, certainly there are plenty of forums that do, in fact, provide an opportunity to speak anonymously, even if they might not be actively encouraging it. I agree that anonymity encourages people to be less than civil (and thank you for not commenting here anonymously!), but there are forums where people are asking for advice regarding really tough issues and never would do so if they were forced to reveal themselves. Facebook doesn’t even allow the possibility. That’s great for some kinds of sites, but not for others.

    I actually think that Facebook has created something new here, even if many of the features are shared with other systems, like Disqus. Time will tell how popular this becomes, or if it suffers from a real backlash.

    But I’m not betting against Facebook.

  • http://blog.abstractedge.com Scott Paley

    Also, most people get notifications (email or SMS) whenever a new comment appears. So, even if you’re not around when somebody comments a day or two after your original comment, if you have notifications turned on you wouldn’t miss it.

  • http://blog.abstractedge.com Scott Paley

    Thanks DJ.

    Do you think Facebook will roll those other features out soon?

  • http://notesfromtheninjabunny.tumblr.com/ Emily Merkle

    I did not say it is not compelling to comment on a company’s blog – but why does my social network care?

    FB – I do not go for quantity…I am 36 year old professional. I am busy. So are my friends.

    I believe you are incorrect – comments synch to FB but the pub’s article and message board aren’t – you have to click back thru to the content site…

    hah – I guess you don’t read much news online…

    no obviously your company site will not invoke rioting…

    sorry – not new – but can’t hurt.

  • http://blog.abstractedge.com Scott Paley

    Hi Emily,

    The entire point of the new Facebook system is that the comment you leave, and any responses anybody makes (whether on Facebook or the pub’s article) will show up in your FB feed. No, the entire publication article nor entire message board do not show up in your feed, which is not what I said. If you want that, yes you’d have to click through.

    On your first point – why should your social network care about what you post on a company blog – that’s exactly right and a very good point. But what if it’s not a company blog? What if it’s a major news site? Something topical that your friends *do* care about (or, some of them anyway?)

    Finally, please consider that this post was mostly written on the same day the new feature was announced. I’m sure as time passes, my thoughts on this will be refined — especially as we see how it plays out in reality as opposed to mere theory.

    And finally, yes, I get about 95% of my news online.

  • Liran

    So many times people have tried to make universal commenting platform to work over the web,
    I don’t think this effort will succeed, it will not be accepted just like all the previous ones (even ones by google – the sidewiki).
    A comment should be able to be published anonymously, regardless of the site’s ability to monitor it (user perspective).
    On the other hand, sites don’t want to be taken out the of monitoring equation, and that’s the main reason this feature cannot be accepted. most of the sites will not plug it in.
    Summing it up:
    Not acceptable by users, nor by site owners = failure.

  • Neil Bates

    Well, this is related and involves the change in comment adding operations per se. I use SeaMonkey to access Facebook. Their new comment “system” (took away the add comment button, and now just press “enter”) does not work when I try! Is this something about their not accommodating Linux browsers, what? It’s awful, please help. tx

  • http://blog.abstractedge.com Scott Paley

    Hi Neil. Thanks for the comment. Hopefully that’s just a bug that will be resolved in time by Facebook engineers. Unfortunately, I am not nearly powerful enough to get that resolved for you.

  • Neil Bates

    Here is a workaround I thought of myself. I went to the website (via browser, important distinction) http://m.facebook.com, and found I could still comment there since the comment buttons are still available once you click into commenting.

    tyrannogenius

  • http://fairandroid.com Asho

    I implemented the facebook comment using a plugin which also converts the facebook comment into wordpress comment… so the comments will be indexable by Google… i think this is the best way to use facebook comment…

  • http://justinkownacki.com/ Justin Kownacki

    My lone experience with the new Facebook-fueled blog comments has been on TechCrunch. The upside was that people I’ve never interacted with before were “liking” and responding to my comments. The downside was that it created a conversation distraction where I wasn’t expecting one, but I could probably fix that in the settings. Overall, I’m surprised I haven’t seen it deployed more often. Disqus, Livefyre and other similar tools seem to have held their ground against the Facebook encroachment thus far.

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